[SINGE 2] New Laserdisc Engine + Games (03/12/20 final update)

[Karis 227]

Hello everyone,

 

i'm proud to announce the launch of Singe 2.0 designed by Scott Duensing.

 

For history, Singe 2 is the successor of Singe, a dll for Daphne allowing to adapt/create laserdisc games.

Singe 2 is no longer dependant of Daphne. It is a standalone program (for Windows 32/64, Mac, Linux) and many games are already available.

 

In this thread i will mostly talk about my own releases for Singe, but you can find many more on the official website : 

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Singe 2.0 Features:

 

- any resolution/format for games (Daphne/singe was limited to m2v and was experimental at 1080p)

- adaptable overlay (Daphne Singe was limited)

- No maximum lenght limitation (was 65536 frames)

- Better controls (all buttons of the pad usable)

- Many more...

 

GAMES: (from 03/12/20 all games are the final version, no further update needed)

 

You can find the links for the games on the Singe website. For my own games i provide you this link (i suggest you use it since it's updated as soon as i make modifications/corrections) : 

For easy maintenance (future updates) I separated the app from the games directory. So you have now to download each game separately. 

 

First here is the link to The app + Tutorial + bats: 

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For now here is the list (just put the downloaded directory in the singe directory):

 

 

- Cliffhanger: 1080p Adaptation of the Classic. Cliffhanger includes 2 "missing link" extra levels based on the Lupin/Cagliostro movie.

Difficulty : 4/5

Link: 

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- Dragon's Lair II enhanced: No need to explain. Dl2 includes the new enhanced rom allowing a better gameplay with the special objects. This is the native 4/3 version.

Difficulty : 4/5

Link: 

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- Fire & Ice: fan game based on the Ralph Bashki movie (2 versions of the game available)

Difficulty : 3/5 (v1) 4/5 (v2)

Link: 

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Princess Mononoke: fan game based on the Hayao Miyazaki movie.

Difficulty : 4/5

link: 

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Sucker Punch: fan game based on the crazy Zack Snyder movie.

Difficulty : 5/5 (maybe 6)

link: 

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- Timegal HD: HD (upscaled) version of the Taito classic. This is the native 4/3 version.

Difficulty : 2/5

Link: 

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- Titan A.E: fan game based on the Don Bluth movie.

Difficulty : 3/5

Link: 

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- Asterix: Port of a game released for Singe 1 by Nado74 (credit to him)

Difficulty : 2/5

Link: 

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a few notes :

 

- In Cliffhanger if you choose the level Easy you will have a regular set of arrows (Up/Down/Left/Right/Hand/Feet) and instructions instead of Stick/Move.

 

- For all those games, you will find an Assets directory, including pictures (logo, cover,...) for you favorite launcher 

 

In order to launch the games, you just need to click the corresponding bat file.

 

CONTROLS:

 

1 or Start : Start the game

9 or Right Thumb : Options menu

Left Control or Button A : Action

Left Alt or Button B : Action 2 (used as feet in Cliffhanger)

Arrows or pad : Move

Esc or Start+Select  : Exit 

 

When you're in the attract mode you can push the action button for more detailed controls.

 

In the Options Menu, you can define many things like Starting Level (and Scene) - So yes you can finally play the unreachable levels of DL2 - Number of lives and Death Rewind (read the tutorial for more details).

Death rewind defines where the game resets when you die:

 

- Level (most boring option - not recommended)

- Scene

- Last move (note that this option can be tricky in some games where moves are close to each other)

- Next move (like Space Ace, note that this option can be tricky in some games where moves are close to each other)

 

4/3 VERSIONS:

 

For Asterix, Mononoke, Sucker Punch, Cliffhanger, Fire and Ice & Titan A.E i also made 4/3 cropped versions (if your screen is not 16/9). 

You just need to put the file in the Movie directory (replacing the 16/9 movie).

If you need a specific resolution for your system (lower resolution for example), just ask and i'll consider it.

Here is the link : 

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16/9 VERSIONS:

 

For 4/3 games (DL2, TG), i prepared something special, with a bezel.

Normally, converting those games to 16/9 means cropping and i'm not a big fan since cropping means removing important parts of the image.

The link includes the new video and a new main.singe (in order to keep things like score at the right place).

In this directory you can also find a 16/9 cropped version of Titan A.E and Sucker Punch. (without black bars).

Here is the link: 

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480P PACK:

 

For those with older monitors, here is a pack of the movies+overlay suited for a 480p resolution.

This link does not include Singe or the script. Just download them and replace movies and overlay. Please don't change overlay resolution!

link: 

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TUTORIAL:

 

With Singe 2.0 you can create your own FMV game. It's not difficult and does not require any programming skills.

For this you will find a complete tutorial pdf in the link, along with a "Blank" directory which contains all you need.

 

So, i hope you enjoy all of this and don't hesitate to ask questions. I will do my best to answer quickly. 

 

UPDATES:

 

I will note updates here, so you can just download the files you need to stay up to date

- 03/11/20: improved movie for Timegal (in Timegal\Movie)

- 12/11/20: improved movie for Timegal (again) and Dl2e.

- 16/11/20: Mononoke (full game)

- 24/11/20: Mononoke (new gaming mode/Dynamic Resolution/Graphics)

- 25/11/20: Update for Dl2e and Cliff (Dynamic Res) and for FaI, TG, Titan (like Mononoke). Titan AE 16/9 cropped. Added Asterix (full game).

- 28/11/20: Tutorial and Blank file v2.12 

- 30/11/20: Sucker Punch! 

- 02/12/20: Cliff and DL2 now have percent mode.

- 03/12/20: final version (2.2) for all games (2.0 for DL2e). All the directories are updated.

If you have all the games already just download this (small) file and overwrite in your singe directory : 

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If you download after 03/12/20, you don't need this update. All directories are already upgraded.

If, after update, you have problems for some games (freeze or anything), don't bother and just redownload the whole game.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by Karis

[Rex2573 16]

1 ora fa, Karis ha scritto:

Hello everyone,

 

i'm proud to announce the launch of Singe 2.0 designed by Scott Duensing.

 

For history, Singe 2 is the successor of Singe, a dll for Daphne allowing to adapt/create laserdisc games.

Singe 2 is no longer dependant of Daphne. It is a standalone program (for Windows 32/64, Mac, Linux) and many games are already available.

 

In this thread i will mostly talk about my own releases for Singe, but you can find many more on the official website : 

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Singe 2.0 Features :

 

- any resolution/format for games (Daphne/singe was limited to m2v and was experimental at 1080p)

- adaptable overlay (Daphne Singe was limited)

- No maximum lenght limitation (was 65536 frames)

- Better controls (all buttons of the pad usable)

- Many more...

 

GAMES :

 

You can find the links for the games on the Singe website. For my own games i provide you this link (i suggest you use it since it's updated as soon as i make modifications/corrections) : 

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For now here is the list :

 

- Cliffhanger : 1080p Adaptation of the Classic. Cliffhanger includes 2 "missing link" extra levels based on the Lupin/Cagliostro movie.

- Dragon's Lair II enhanced : No need to explain. Dl2 includes the new enhanced rom allowing a better gameplay with the special objects.

- Fire & Ice : fan game based on the Ralph Bashki movie

- Timegal HD : HD (upscaled) version of the Taito classic. 

- Titan A.E : fan game based on the Don Bluth movie.

 

For all those games, you will find an Assets directory, including pictures (loco, cover,...) for you favorite launcher 

 

Also, two new games will be released before december. Those are challenging games with new kind of moves. More about this later...

 

In order to launch the games, you just need to click the corresponding bat file.

 

When you're inside the main controls are :

 

1 or Start : Start the game

9 or Right Thumb : Options menu

Left Control or Button A : Action

Left Alt or Button B : Action 2 (used as feet in Cliffhanger)

Arrows or pad : Move

 

When you're in the attract mode you can push the action button for more detailed controls.

 

 

4/3 VERSIONS :

 

For Cliffhanger, Fire and Ice & Titan A.E i also made 4/3 versions (if your monitor). 

Here is the link : 

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You just need to put the file in the Movie directory (replacing the 16/9 movie).

If you need a specific resolution for your system (lower resolution for example), just ask and i'll consider it.

 

 

TUTORIAL :

 

With Singe 2.0 you can create your own FMV game. It's not difficult and does not require any programming skills.

For this you will find a complete tutorial pdf in the link, along with a "Blank" directory wich contains all you need.

 

So, i hope you enjoy all of this and don't hesitate to ask questions. I will do my best to answer quickly. 

you are amazing for your work..excuse me if possible include in the pad a button to exit from game directly from pad and not using the key board,please..thanks from now

[Karis 227]

il y a 4 minutes, Rex2573 a dit :

you are amazing for your work..excuse me if possible include in the pad a button to exit from game directly from pad and not using the key board,please..thanks from now

From the pad, you can hit Start + Select to exit.

I will update my thread

Edited October 25, 2020 by Karis

[juice 13]

thanks alot my friend loves tis stuff, dream come true

[maabus 81]

This is great Karis

 

Cant wait to see what you and the other Sine guys put out!

[maabus 81]

@Karis

 

Do you know how to slow everything down? its like everything is on fast forward 

[Moksi 17]

I played around with Daphne long time ago , when i used the flight stick with Astron Belt the  controls up / down were Inverted and you theres no option to Disable it 

possible with Singe 2.0 it could be done ?

 

The American LaserGames is it possible to disable the crosshair in the test menu , because it always crashed when i tried it with Singe 1.0 

[Karis 227]

Il y a 3 heures, maabus a dit :

@Karis

 

Do you know how to slow everything down? its like everything is on fast forward 

Strange but i think it might be an indexing problem.

For each game, Try to go in the Index directory and to remove the Nameofthegame.mp4 (it's the index). It will force Singe to reindex the game and it probably will solve the thing.

 

[Karis 227]

il y a 48 minutes, Moksi a dit :

I played around with Daphne long time ago , when i used the flight stick with Astron Belt the  controls up / down were Inverted and you theres no option to Disable it 

possible with Singe 2.0 it could be done ?

 

The American LaserGames is it possible to disable the crosshair in the test menu , because it always crashed when i tried it with Singe 1.0 

For Astron it would be possible yes if someone port it.

 

For ALG, i did not made the port (my firend Fabrizio did) but i think it's an option in the Menu yes. That said it should not crash with it in Singe 2

[grandvent 41]

What a great news ! I even saw you added support for generating a border for the sinden lightgun. I'm just wondering if singe2 supports 2 players (with 2 mouses for example).

Thanks for your work. I used to dream in front of these machines.

[Moksi 17]

4 hours ago, Karis said:

For Astron it would be possible yes if someone port it.

 

For ALG, i did not made the port (my firend Fabrizio did) but i think it's an option in the Menu yes. That said it should not crash with it in Singe 2

 

Great to see theres improvement on these games

with ALG the accuracy of the shots bugs me thats why i dont play it much, could there be an improvement with the acuracy of shots (without the crosshair)

 

with crosshair visible its playable, since test menu crashed after disabling crosshair i tried to hide the crosshair but wasnt accurate at all .

Hope to see some improvement  

[HVG 47]

ALG game downloads don't have any script files (scriptName.singe) How can I make them work?
Thanks for your work

[Rex2573 16]

13 ore fa, Rex2573 ha scritto:

you are amazing for your work..excuse me if possible include in the pad a button to exit from game directly from pad and not using the key board,please..thanks from now

exuse my friend but TIME GAL, D LAIR 2  and  TITAN A..E. don't run  full screen mode

[snupello 11]

Error:  Specified resolution is larger than the display after i press menu.exe, which file i can configure and how ??

 

tks

 

 

[poiu 133]

2 ore fa, HVG ha scritto:

ALG game downloads don't have any script files (scriptName.singe) How can I make them work?
Thanks for your work

you have to make a bat file.
this is what you need to launch crime patrol

 

Singe-v2.00-Windows-x86_64 -k -w -z -v Crime_Patrol_Singe_2\video\Crime_Patrol.txt Crime_Patrol_Singe_2\Script\crimepatrol.singe

 

 

[poiu 133]

5 ore fa, Moksi ha scritto:

 

Great to see theres improvement on these games

with ALG the accuracy of the shots bugs me thats why i dont play it much, could there be an improvement with the acuracy of shots (without the crosshair)

 

with crosshair visible its playable, since test menu crashed after disabling crosshair i tried to hide the crosshair but wasnt accurate at all .

Hope to see some improvement  

which gun are you using ?

[Moksi 17]

21 minutes ago, poiu said:

which gun are you using ?

 

Aimtrak , without visible crosshair its unplayable i have to play with crosshair .

with Mame , Sega Model 2 Model 3 it plays fine though without visible crosshair

[poiu 133]

5 ore fa, Moksi ha scritto:

 

Aimtrak , without visible crosshair its unplayable i have to play with crosshair .

with Mame , Sega Model 2 Model 3 it plays fine though without visible crosshair

ok

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Edited October 26, 2020 by poiu

[Karis 227]

Il y a 7 heures, Rex2573 a dit :

exuse my friend but TIME GAL, D LAIR 2  and  TITAN A..E. don't run  full screen mode

They should. What is your resolution ?

[Rex2573 16]

39 minuti fa, Karis ha scritto:

They should. What is your resolution ?

1920x 1080..but TITAN A E RUNS IN PANORAMIC wide screen mode.. TIME GAL  and DRAGON S LAIR 2 IN 4/3.. only FIRE AND ICE and CLIFF HANGER run perfectly in full 16/9 screen mode

Edited October 26, 2020 by Rex2573

[Rex2573 16]

nothingh to do.. i tried to download again the file..but always both DRAGON'S LAIR 2 and TIME GAL run at 4/3..instead TITAN A.E. runs in panoramic mode and not full screen

[dex77 348]

Bravo!!

[Karis 227]

Il y a 7 heures, Rex2573 a dit :

nothingh to do.. i tried to download again the file..but always both DRAGON'S LAIR 2 and TIME GAL run at 4/3..instead TITAN A.E. runs in panoramic mode and not full screen

 

DL2 and TG are 4/3. This is their native resolution. For DL2 there are 16/9 versions existing but they are fake (they overscan the 4/3 to fit and so a lot of the up and down image disappear). For TG a 16/9 would be the same. My purpose is to preserve the image so i don't plan to overscan.

 

Titan A.E is Panoramic natively. So having black bands up and down is strictly normal. Once again an overscan would remove left and right of the image.

 

So i misunderstood your claim (the game are fullscreen, not appearing in a window) but this behavior is normal.

Edited October 27, 2020 by Karis

[Karis 227]

Il y a 14 heures, Moksi a dit :

 

Aimtrak , without visible crosshair its unplayable i have to play with crosshair .

with Mame , Sega Model 2 Model 3 it plays fine though without visible crosshair

I'm not programming those one, but i've got an Aimtrak and i play them.

Aimtrak is not the most perfect/ accurate gun (Sinden is way better as Poiu pointed). It's way more accurate with additional program like Demulshooter (but it Requires Argon, the developper, to make a profile for the game). 

For the remaining games (like PS2) you've got to adapt a lot of things. Do you calibrate properly (i mean long press, then aiming different zones of the screen) ? I guess so but i've got to ask.

[Rex2573 16]

5 ore fa, Karis ha scritto:

 

DL2 and TG are 4/3. This is their native resolution. For DL2 there are 16/9 versions existing but they are fake (they overscan the 4/3 to fit and so a lot of the up and down image disappear). For TG a 16/9 would be the same. My purpose is to preserve the image so i don't plan to overscan.

 

Titan A.E is Panoramic natively. So having black bands up and down is strictly normal. Once again an overscan would remove left and right of the image.

 

So i misunderstood your claim (the game are fullscreen, not appearing in a window) but this behavior is normal.

for not full screen i mean that they are not in full screen as the perfect CLIFF HANGER and  FIRE AND ICE, in other words they are not in 16/9

[Karis 227]

il y a 51 minutes, Rex2573 a dit :

for not full screen i mean that they are not in full screen as the perfect CLIFF HANGER and  FIRE AND ICE, in other words they are not in 16/9

 

Yeah i know.

But 16/9 is not always perfection. Cliff and F&I are natively 16/9 (but the original Cliff game was released in 4/3 with cropping, so i restored it). The other games are not. When i do a game from a source i always keep the same ratio.

DL games were meant to be 4/3, each 16/9 version is an alteration which removes important parts of the drawings (sometime it's even Dirk's head). TG never existed in 16/9. 

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Karis

[nado74 9]

Thanks karis to you and Scott Duensing for the great work and patience. 

[MrLupin 0]

Hey guys, I installed Cliffhanger and am running under SINGE but its like the audio is stuttering and the video goes too fast sometimes. Any help?

Edit: Never Mind, it was my audio drivers

Edited October 27, 2020 by MrLupin
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[maabus 81]

27 minutes ago, MrLupin said:

Hey guys, I installed Cliffhanger and am running under SINGE but its like the audio is stuttering and the video goes too fast sometimes. Any help?

Edit: Never Mind, it was my audio drivers

What type of audio card do you have? 

 

I have the same issue. My audio drivers seem like they are correct. 

[Moksi 17]

17 hours ago, Karis said:

I'm not programming those one, but i've got an Aimtrak and i play them.

Aimtrak is not the most perfect/ accurate gun (Sinden is way better as Poiu pointed). It's way more accurate with additional program like Demulshooter (but it Requires Argon, the developper, to make a profile for the game). 

For the remaining games (like PS2) you've got to adapt a lot of things. Do you calibrate properly (i mean long press, then aiming different zones of the screen) ? I guess so but i've got to ask.

yes i calibrated it .  sinden is accurate dont like the white border unfortunately . i like the aimtrak since i modified it with force feedback with a sliding mechanism

but i think Mame has a better accuracy without crosshair than Singe. ( Mame, Sega Model 2 , Model 3 , PCSX2 , Naomi uses the mouse pointer (not visible)

Singe has the big pixel blocky like crosshair when i make the crosshair transparent (not visible) the accuracy isnt right. 

But i will try to Test mode with SInge 2.0 to see if disabling crosshair in test menu should make difference 

 

When MAME supports ALG i think that problem is solved but when is the question 

[fwlr 3]

Thanks Karis for the hard work.

[MrLupin 0]

3 hours ago, maabus said:

What type of audio card do you have? 

 

I have the same issue. My audio drivers seem like they are correct. 

I don't have a audio card, I have USB Headphones. I restarted my pc and unplugged/repluged my headphones to fix it.

[Karis 227]

Il y a 12 heures, MrLupin a dit :

I don't have a audio card, I have USB Headphones. I restarted my pc and unplugged/repluged my headphones to fix it.

 

If it does not solve a good first step is to reindex the file by clearing the index (located for each game in the index directory) and the restart.

[poiu 133]

15 ore fa, Moksi ha scritto:

yes i calibrated it .  sinden is accurate dont like the white border unfortunately . i like the aimtrak since i modified it with force feedback with a sliding mechanism

but i think Mame has a better accuracy without crosshair than Singe. ( Mame, Sega Model 2 , Model 3 , PCSX2 , Naomi uses the mouse pointer (not visible)

Singe has the big pixel blocky like crosshair when i make the crosshair transparent (not visible) the accuracy isnt right. 

But i will try to Test mode with SInge 2.0 to see if disabling crosshair in test menu should make difference 

 

When MAME supports ALG i think that problem is solved but when is the question 

I provided a sony ldp 1450 player to a member of mamedev to make the dump of the bios, now it's a long time but from what I understand they never succeeded.
it's a bad luck I have all the lasedisc ready

[maabus 81]

@Karis

I did a full reinstall, and unfortunately I still have the same issue. It's happening on all games and the splash screen. Right now the only other thing I can think of, is I have a remote computer connected to my system. Maybe it is somehow detecting the audio on the remote computer. 

 

I'll disconnect the remote system and see if it fixes the issue.