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    Intel i5 4590 3.3Ghz Quad Core
    MSI 1050TI 4GB Low Profile
    12gb RAM
    240GB SSD + 2TB HDD
  1. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    Yeah, great visuals as its the only HD version out there before it was delisted but its very basic and barebones as they left out the majority of the game. Sega has a real odd way of treating this franchise and its crazy as there is a small but dedicated (dozens!) fanbase for the game. Hopefully OG Xbox emulation comes along in leaps and bounds so we can just play the proper version in modern resolutions as all of the rest have something off about them in various ways, hence the request for an Ultimate Edition. The 360 BC is off on Outrun 2 with a crap framerate, C2C is better but that has small glitches here and there. I had considered looking into the wrapper files on 360 and seeing if they can be tweaked to coax better emulation out of it by optimizing the variables as that would be good enough but need to pick up a hacked Xbox at some point. Theoretically it should be doable and not that difficult either as MS already got most of the game running.
  2. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Is it quiet under full load? That was the main thing that put me off as its a lot of power in very small form factor. It does look great though and the power is perfect.
  3. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    Yeah, its not consistent across the stages and the bloom/blue skies thing is what defines the game. Its got the most replayability of anything, ever and even if we don't get a sequel I'd be good with a proper remastered ultimate edition of 2/C2C. Find it odd that not many people speak on the bloom at 1080p though or act like its normal. Obviously mustn't have played the original as much.
  4. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Purchased a SFF with these specs: Intel i5 4590 3.3Ghz Quad Core MSI 1050TI 4GB Low Profile 12gb RAM 240GB SSD + 2TB HDD And it plays Outrun perfectly. Would recommend anyone looking to get started in emulation or whoever wants a relatively small, quiet and cheap PC for the living room to check these out as they tick all the boxes. Getting used to Windows and its general crappiness as an OS however is another thing. Quite possibly the most user unfriendly experience ever, esp Windows Defender with its "Hai, I just deleted loads of files just because, kthanksbye!" and all of this install this driver then that driver and this update and blah blah blah. A Linux based fork of Tekno would be most welcome at some point but for now this will do.
  5. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    Thanks, will try that out. The bloom effects are what defined so much of the vibe of this game as they were a great compliment to the blue skies and only the OG Xbox version got that right. I haven't checked that for ages but remember it felt off compared to the OG Xbox. Something about the way it played and looked definitely wasn't up to par and I know this game inside out so could feel the differences straight away. Thats why having the arcade version at home is so great but it would be nice to have all those extra play modes and features as well. If ever there was a game that needed a full remaster with a new coat of polish its this one but given the license arrangement and how Sega are with this IP it looks like this is the closest we've got to that for now.
  6. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    Are you running it at 1080p? I tried 100 as my first setting as that was recommended elsewhere but still get moments when there is too much bloom and it generally doesn't feel "right" compared to how I remember it on the original platform.
  7. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    What are you people setting the sun level to in Outrun at 1080p in order to get it working correctly?
  8. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    Running TP Outrun 2 has very pixelated graphics on the title screen, selection etc - but perfectly crisp in game. Is this due to it still using the original low resolution artwork for everything else? Also how do you activate the rumble feature on the controller? I'm using PS3 pad configured as 360 via SCP Toolkit as per tutorial. Everything else is cool but no rumble? Either way the game looks and plays amazing.
  9. Best PC frontend? CoinOps?

    Whats the best all in one front end for everything emulation related? CoinOps Ultimate looks real good. What do you use and why?
  10. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Thank you, that is very handy but from reading up about Tekno it works best with Nvidia GPUs so I'm going to stick to whats recommended for the simplest option. They do look great though, perfect aesthetics and size on the second one. I've been looking around and it seems repurposing old SFF is the best option overall as they are quite capable for emulation and inexpensive, quiet and relatively small. How does this spec seem please? Took your advice about the dual drives as it makes sense. Intel i5 4590 3.3Ghz Quad Core MSI 1050TI 4GB Low Profile 12gb RAM 240GB SSD + 2TB HDD It appears the graphics card can only be fitted into the black PCIe x4 slot, not the blue x16, due to there not being enough room in the case. Is that a major issue? This does seem the best option for me as they are little over the size of a console, quite quiet and very cheaply available. Not to mention how Dell make decent quality, reliable stuff. Wonder why these aren't spoken of more as I was totally unaware of this option until a few days ago Inspired by: Bonus for spec info differences:
  11. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Maybe but if they can cram everything inside a gaming laptop or Xbox then why would a PC need to be so large it can be seen from outer space? I get it, its OK for you lot who sit in your bedrooms playing games but my requirements aren't the same which is why I'm quite specific with what I outline but grateful for the help and insight you professionals provide as I know next to nothing about being PC. From what I've learned since posting this thread it seems the huge box option is what all the purists would go for because its cheaper, more durable and upgradable. The tiny quiet unobtrusive box that can be hidden away when not in use that I like is more expensive, may have cooling issues and has a fixed spec. The middle ground of those Mini PCs I've looked at seems to be a halfway house with none of the benefits of the big box whilst being not much cheaper than the small box. Looking at the spec of the small box above its actually quiet powerful and should easily handle anything I throw at it. The tech tests online about temperature and throttling seem to be OK as the fan management works pretty well and really for what I'm using it for it shouldn't be sweating anyway as I'm not pushing that much through it. That combined with the insane price jacking on graphics cards at the moment (which is something I only discovered when reading old threads and finding out people are selling year old tech at more than they paid for it due to shortages) are really making the small box seem to be the best fit for my needs. Reddit reviews on these cheap Chinese Mini PCs seem quite good as well. That said I just found this video when searching: Very interesting as you can get those machines from £100 - £250 and Dell are good quality so all in all with the extra parts its still below budget and looks reasonably decent/small.
  12. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Thanks, that makes it much easier and helps to clarify the confusion. Outrun 2 is mainly what I want to play and that natively ran on: CPU : Intel Celeron 2.8ghz GFX : NVIDIA GeForce 7600gs 256mb AGP GFX Memory : 512MB (256 bit GDDR3) Which is super low specs in a modern machine whilst I've got other folks saying you need an absolutely cutting edge, huge, sound like a turbine engine with LEDs all over the place PC just to play Pong! Is there a resource for Tekno of what supported games ran on what hardware anywhere? I had a feeling that this worked via interpretation layer and not emulation due to the shared hardware and that was why it didn't make any sense when there was such divergence. So as a rule of thumb just look up the specs of the game you want to play in TP and make sure you've got more grunt. Also following on from your other post about getting a full size PC, I really don't have the space nor inclination for that which is why I've never been a PC gamer. Believe me if I could mod a console to run TP I would, happily, as I dislike Window as an OS and all that comes with it, especially those ugly ass machines. Thats why I'm trying to find an aesthetically pleasing solution and am thinking about the HP Pavilion: As they are within my budget second hand and have the specs listed above. What is putting me off about this HP is that it apparently uses non standard parts and can't be upgraded which means I might as well buy the small Chinese box listed in the OP instead as its got a far better spec and much more agreeable form factor: CPU Intel Core i7-9850H Core 6 Cores 12 Threads, 2.6GHz, Up to 4.6GHz Cache 16M Display core NVIDIA GTX 1650 4GB (soldered on board, Can not upgrade) RAM 16GB DDR4-2666 included Hard Drives Capacity 0GB Solid State Disk Support 1* M.2 2280 SSD, (NVME 512G SSD Included) But truly there is no end when it comes to PCs, is there? There is always something faster, better, stronger, harder coming along. I use a Playstation Classic for emulation and that is tiny, instant on, no messing around and handles everything I could ever want on arcade upto a point. Getting this new machine would replace that and add Dreamcast, Tekno and PSP and possibly some PS2 but not essential. Mainly I'm dropping this cash just to play Outrun so you can see why its a bit nuts from my POV...
  13. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Thanks, both are HP Pavilions and according to what I've quickly checked online aren't upgradeable due to the OEM PSUs being a bit different and only having enough power for the standard rig. HP don't sell upgrades either. See things like this are why I don't like PC. That looks absolutely awesome, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'd been looking at those small Alienware Alphas but apparently they have cooling issues and can get super noisy. That MSI is the kind of thing I had in mind but the prices are absolutely sky high but it comes from a branded company as opposed to no name Chinese boxes so at least you know the quality/durability will be there as thats a concern with these small boxes. If someone started punting out small HTPC sized gaming boxes that were quiet and reasonably priced they could clean up as that sector of the market seems to be being ignored.
  14. PC specifications for emulation esp Teknoparrot

    Thanks but those options are way out of my price range plus I'd prefer not to have to build a PC, especially with how overpriced components are at the minute. Does Tekno really need that much power? I've spied a couple of second hand machines that are specced as follows: Intel Core i5-8400, 3.90GHz, 6 Cores Processor Storage 1TB 7200 RPM HDD. 16GB Intel Optane GeForce GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5 Dedicated Graphics Card Memory RAM 8GB OR: Intel Core i5-9400F, 2.90GHz, 6 Cores Processor Storage 256GB SSD for top speed GeForce GTX 1650 4GB Dedicated Graphics Card Memory RAM 8GB Both of these are within my budget and come in a regular style PC box. The main aim is to play Outrun 2 SP DX in 1080p/60FPS perfectly smoothly. I know the rest of Retroarch stuff will work perfectly anyway as its already handled by a Playstation Classic so getting a decent enough spec for Tekno is the main thing here whilst spending around £500, tops.
  15. Teknoparrot Loader | Arcade PC

    Thanks, those are very valid points. For me its simply a question of aesthetics. I can't stand the big ugly looking PC boxes and don't want something like that cluttering up my AV rack when I could get something slimmer but the point you've raised about the PSU can't be faulted. Considering that games consoles can handle sufficient levels of power and cooling I was willing to overlook that factor on smaller machines but then they are designed that way from the ground up. Smaller PCs however still need what they need in terms of power as they are built around shared components so I may start looking into Mini ITX instead. I've tried searching but can't seem to find any specific thread on here in regards to PC specifications etc.. and related topics as that would be a very handy resource. Myself I don't know much about PCs at all as I'm a console gamer but am purely interested for high end emulation and there is simply so much information out there - much of it contradictory - so its nice to hear from people in the field who are living what they share and not just hyping stuff online for affiliate sales or clicks. We can continue the discussion here or in a thread I'd already started if you wish: Either way I appreciate the help as I'd rather spend money once and buy something that will last but also fulfills my aesthetic requirements.